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Friday, May 6, 2011

Brussels vs. Barbastro: two peak oil conferences



The logo of the Barbastro conference on peak oil. A bit of an unlikely place for such a conference, a small town in the Southern Pyrenees, in Spain. But the UNED is a major Spanish University that works on the concept of "Distance Learning." For those of you who can read Spanish, you can find a detailed report of the Barbastro conference in Antonio Turiel's blog "The Oil Crash"


It is not usual to have two peak conferences in a row; spaced of just a few days from each other. But that happened this year, with the ASPO-9 conference held in Brussels, Belgium on April 27-29, and with the conference titled "Peak oil, fact or fiction?" held in Barbastro (Spain) on May 5-7; organized by the UNED (Universidad National de Educacion a Distancia).

The two conferences had the same theme and at least one common speaker (Chris Skrebowsky). Several people attended both and I was one of them; so I think I can tell you a little about this full immersion of nearly two weeks on peak oil and related subjects.

So, first of all let me say that these were both very interesting conferences, at least if you are interested in dark and dire things to come. Hours and hours of talking about peak oil can't solve the question of when exactly it will going to arrive (or has it already arrived?). That depends on how you exactly define peak oil. Is it "peak crude?" Or "peak all liquids?" Or, as someone said in Brussels, shouldn't that be "peak net energy?"

In the end, it is not so important. From the talks I heard, I got the impression that most industry professionals in the field of oil production are aware of the issue. Some of them are more concerned than others; but their attitude is, basically, "we can keep extracting oil and even increase production if we are paid enough" But that, of course, is by no means granted, so we are facing hard times anyway. On this point there was no substantial difference between what was heard in Barbastro and in Brussels.

Of course, there were also differences. The conference in Brussels was bigger, somewhat more formal, more focussed on the specific subject of peak oil. These are, at least, my impressions - Brussels had parallel sessions, so I couldn't follow all the talks. The Barbastro conference, instead, was less formal and taking a wider approach. Maybe the presentations in Brussels were more consistently of good quality, but some presentation in Barbastro were extremely stimulating and thought-provoking. We heard more talks in Barbastro on sustainability and  the climate change issue was not a ghost howling in the night - as it was in Brussels (as I discussed in a previous post). It was a central point of the discussion, as it deserves to be and it was clear to everyone that global warming is an issue at least as important as peak oil; if not much more.

Overall, Barbastro seemed to be willing to tackle wider questions and to ask unmentionable questions; for instance, do we really own everything in this planet? If we are justified in poisoning people in order to produce combustible liquids and gas, why don't we jump to the ultimate consequence and turn human corpses into oil? Some talks in Brussels were frankly scary, but in Barbastro some presentations made you feel like running away screaming.

I came back from Brussels with the sensation that we can still keep going for a while with things as they are (BAU) but from Barbastro I got the impression that we can't; that we are going to get into big troubles much sooner than most people expect (BYE BAU). These are sensations, of course. These subjects are so vast that it is impossible to quantify trends. We all rely on impression; trying to make some sense of the data we have. But, at least, from these conferences you get data and analyses possibly slightly more reliable and in-depth than what you normally see in TV.

Some final notes: Brussels is big, the capital of Belgium and also of Europe. Barbastro is a small town in the Spanish Pyrenees. But there are things in common. One is that food is great in both places (although much more expensive in Brussels). Another is that both conferences were mostly ignored by politicians and Big Media. A specific problem with Barbastro was that it followed the typical Spanish schedule. Morning sessions ended at 2:30 p.m and afternoon session at 8:pm. Then, you had lunch around 3 pm and dinner around 10 pm. You can get used to that, of course. It will be much more difficult to get used to other problems that we'll be facing in the coming years.


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As I am writing, there is still one session to go in the Barbastro conference, but I am sure it won't change my overall impression - although it might increase that feeling of running away screaming that I mentioning. I am also preparing a post for "Cassandra" of my presentation in Barbastro. The title is something like: "Hubbert's peak, thermodynamics, and stoic philosophy."  I didn't know what the tone of the Barbastro conference was to be when I prepared my talk but, curiously, it turns out that I had perfectly interpreted the mix of philosophy, physics and geology that has characterized the meeting. Will be up as soon as I can have one of my clones working on it.

2 comments:

  1. I write you in Spanish, because I thing yon can understand better what I want to say you, if I follow in English.

    Estimado y admirado Ugo.

    Supongo que al ver mi foto me reconocerá.

    Ha sido un gran placer para mí el conocerle personalmente. ¡Algo bueno tiene el peak-oil!

    El compartir estos tres días con personas como Usted, Gail, Crhis, Mikael, David, Daniel (Lerch y Gómez), Mariano, Pedro, Antonio, y otros ponentes y compañeros que han presentado comunicaciones orales, o simplemente han asistido como oyentes al Congreso de Barbastro, además de un lujo intelectual, ha sido una gran experiencia convivencial y emocional.

    Ha quedado demostrado la alta calidad humana de todos los ponentes...

    Tal vez, algún día, quienes pueden y deben tomar las medidas, entiendan lo que estamos tratando de poner al descubierto...

    Mientras tanto, y como me atreví a decir en mi improvisado brindis al final de la cena en las bodegas IRIUS:

    "Gracias a la Fundación
    por habernos invitado
    a este gran desaguisado
    del petróleo y su extinción.

    Brindemos con Somontano,
    vivamos hoy la comedia,
    mientras llega la tragedia
    que más tarde o más temprano
    llegará. No lo remedia
    ya nadie, ni la CÍA ni el Pentágono.

    Más sigamos siendo el faro
    que en la noche centellea,
    sigamos en la pelea,
    aunque al mundo suene raro."

    Un fuerte abrazo, amigo Ugo, y espero que la fortuna le sonría, antes y después del Peak-Oil,

    Jesús Garijo

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  2. Thank you, Jesus, it was a great pleasure to meet you in Barbastro - and thanks for your presentation on nuclear energy; hugely interesting. See you again one of these conferences!

    Ugo

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Who

Ugo Bardi is a member of the Club of Rome and the author of "Extracted: how the quest for mineral resources is plundering the Planet" (Chelsea Green 2014)